Saturday, March 29, 2014

RAMPRASTHA DELAYS AGAIN, NO SIGN OF POSSESSION:

RAMPRASTHA FACES THE HEAT OF 100 BUYERS 

29th March 2014. Please see previous post for context (below this one).



I suppose it was only to be expected. By November 9th 2013 based on the activities observed, we were sure that the March 2014 deadline simply could not be met. Now four months later the reality is there for all to see - Ramprastha has defaulted. It could not complete Atrium, it could not complete View. For Edge towers the condition is pathetic for most of the towers - even structure is not complete.

This reality was clear to us even one month ago. Some of the association members went to see Senior Management a month ago. He refused to meet us. Instead he deputed, Manager Customer Care to meet and she did not convey anything meaningful. We knew then that management did not care about us - to them we were just an irritation to be fobbed off one way or another. We knew we had to fight for our rights.

We wrote letters to the Government agencies regarding the development activities in Sector 37D, about roads, water, sewerage and parks and landscaping. Currently everything is non-existent - its a jungle out there. We are yet to receive a reply. 

We filed RTI to find out about the sector roads - we filed in Gurgaon office of DTCP and PWD. For that we received a reply saying - this is not our work, we have no information, please apply to Panchkula. Very disappointing - left hand doesn't know - and doesn't want to find out - what right hand is doing. They want us to travel 250 Kilometers. OK, so be it. We have now sent RTI to Panchkula and are awaiting reply.

Most important - we wanted to organise a big protest against Ramprastha. Majority of the association members sent emails to Ramprastha making our demands clear - we wanted a new commitment of possession date but in writing. We wanted the compensation to be increased from April 2014 from 5 to 10 Rs per square feet. And we wanted this in the form of monthly cheques so that we can meet the rent and EMI demands. We asked them to reply by 27th March. As expected we did not get any reply.

We were fully prepared for a big protest on 29th March, because we knew that builder will not reply even to our 88 emails sent en masse - which is exactly what happened. We had mobilised the members of our association, and we put in the application for police permission for protest on 29th March.

But police permission for street protest was denied to us by the govt. because the elections were on !!!

We were very disappointed, but still determined to beard the lion in his den on 29th March - not as a protest but in our capacity as customers. 

When we reached there at 11.30, we were surprised that the security was beefed up! There were 3 guards on one gate, 3 guards on second gate and 3 guards at the main door - Ramprastha office was like a fortress!!!

Did they not know that we are all educated professionals ? We were Doctors, Computer IT Professionals, Office Workers, Old Retired People, Women and Children !!!! We were not a Mazdoor Union!!!! Even our protest would be peaceful, and right now we were not even protesting at all!

As soon as 10 of us went in, the guards were told to stop further people from coming in. The glass doors were closed and the huge guards stood behind the glass doors. We said - please allow everyone to come in! They initially said they will speak to us in groups of 10 only. But finally they relented and allowed everyone to come in. Over a 100 of us finally participated.

We heard the same story we had heard before. 

Sand was not there - we said  - sand was NOIDA problem, and came in 2013 middle! 

Water was not there - we said - ground water use was anyway illegal and court order to implement it came in middle of 2012 ! 

Labour is not there - but how are other builders completing and delivering?

We told them we cannot believe their verbal assurance. We asked them to give in writing about the completion date, the increased compensation and its monthly disbursal. For all three questions the answer was same - the Senior Manager said he will ask his Senior Management and let us know within a week. We told him - previously when you gave us verbal assurance of reply within a week - you have never ever replied - AT ALL. How can we trust your verbal assurance? We said - we met you a month ago - you knew you were defaulting - so why havent you already prepared the answer after discussing with Senior Management? We sent you 88 emails well in advance - so why havent you prepared answer? He kept repeating "I will reply within a week". 

Then we said - OK - give it in writing that we will give reply within a week !

He refused !

We were asking for a commitment to make a commitment, a deadline to give a deadline - and even for that he refused!

Then one of the buyers spoke in a slightly raised voice - and as soon as a single voice was raised the Senior Manager walked out. A single sentence in plain English containing a simple request with not a single word of unparliamentary language, in a slightly raised voice could not be tolerated by a Senior Manager?  

Perhaps people living in big houses and driving expensive cars bought with our money lose their tolerance to slightly raised voice. They do not realise that the money we paid them was our hard earned money paid for our house - which is missing for 5 years. Or perhaps they realise it but dont care? And cannot tolerate a slightly raised voice?

We on the other hand have to tolerate years of delay. We have to tolerate monthly EMI of 50,000. Monthly rent of 25000. Tolerate daily ridicule from our friends asking - "not got your flat yet?" When our children have to take school admission - we dont know which school - near current home or near future home? All this we have to tolerate. And we have to tolerate without raising our voice?

Finally we went out and convinced them to at least receive from us a letter on the points discussed. So in the end - it was written -but by us! We wrote them a letter and they stamped a receiving on it. Will they reply? God only knows - and Senior Management.

While we were waiting for the reply - suddenly a couple of journalists appeared. I dont know how - had she heard something through news networks? Did one of the 100 buyers call her? I dont know.

She was a very nice young lady and said she was from Hindustan Times. Very kindly she listened to what all problems we were facing. We explained how we were having financial hardships and she was very surprised to hear that the compensation due for 2 years was not being paid monthly. Narrating all of our problems to such kind ears was most consoling. As one of the buyers put it - the only thing we get from meeting Ramprastha was to realise that we are not alone - other buyers are also suffering. These meeting were only serving the purpose of sharing our tales of hardship. We unloaded all our problems to her kind ears, gave her all the relevant papers including a misleading advertisement in Times of India from two years ago in 2012 when Ramprastha said - POSSESSION IN SIX MONTHS !!! What a joke !!! More like possession in six years.

After that we left. We will have to wait and see what the journalist hears when she went to meet Ramprastha. Hopefully she publishes a nice long article and completely demolish the false claims for delay like sand, water etc. being used by Ramprastha as excuse. Right now media is our only friend.

Follow up: 30.3.2014
Today the article in Hindustan Times appeared in print and is reproduced below




In the meantime the suspense continues. 

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43 comments:

  1. Nicely narrated. In last meeting, I can see the anger and frustration in buyers which is legitimate .. we really work hard in our respective areas and doing good. We has given all our hardened money to a builder and he is not even responding. We need to unite together in great strength to show our solidarity. Again thanks to media this time HT for publishing story.

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  2. I completely support to this, I m also a buyer of Ramprastha's flat in Edge Tower. Ramprastha committed to handover the flat in 2012. We had paid almost full payment to them which was our hardened money and even after paying so much, we are paying monthly rent. This is really disgusting. Still Ramprastha is saying that we'll get possession by 2016.

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  3. Hi can you please add my email address to your list so that i can be informed about the protests or meetings the association would be doing with the management. I would also want to be part of it. I have booked my flat in atrium. my email id is kanha83@gmail.com

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  4. Please add my email id as well in the group list..I have booked a flat in the edge tower.

    Thanks,
    Vipul

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  5. Please add my email-ID neerajban@gmail.com in the group. I'm a buyer in Ramprastha Edge Towers.

    Regards,
    Neeraj Bansal

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  6. All, any further development on the possession. We should not sit quietly, should keep fighting.

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  7. Sir,
    Please let me no know the current status of the case alo let me know the joining formalities in the association. Mukesh Gupta 9810081847,42381770

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  8. What is current status?It seems all builders in sector 37D shall strat giving possession after June 2016.

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  9. Hi, please add my email as well, panksji@gmail.com.

    Please let me know how can I join the meetings and associations. we should not keep quite. I have a flat in View.

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  10. http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/builder-profits-soar-as-master-plans-proliferate-in-gurgaon/article4753735.ece

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  11. Hi, I am planning to buy a flat in atrium, please advise should I buy or not considering above stated issues? Gurjesh 9971113540

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  12. Hi, I am planning to buy a flat in atrium, please advise should I buy or not considering above stated issues? Gurjesh 9971113540

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  13. Hi, I am planning to buy a flat in atrium, please advise should I buy or not considering above stated issues? Gurjesh 9971113540

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  14. Hi,
    Thanks for the initiative and uniting people. I have unit in SKYZ and am suffering with EMI and RENT too. please add me in ur list too. gopeshsharma918@gmail.com

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  15. please add me too purnima.arora@gmail.com

    have a flat in SKYZ and no response from builder

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  16. I have a unit in sky, please add my email to Abhijeet.n4@Gmail.com

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  17. I have a unit in sky, please add my email to Abhijeet.n4@Gmail.com

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  18. I have a unit in Rise. Please add my email : msg.2rajeev@gmail.com

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  19. Hi, pls add me to the group as well, my email is gautamhimanshu@gmail.com
    I have my apartment in Skyz project, cheers

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  20. Hi, pls add me to the group as well, my email id is alok.interlink@gmail.com I have my Flat in RISE project

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  21. Hi Guys, I have a unit in Rise tower add my email address too naggarwal@gmail.com

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  22. hi, plz add me in the group. I have apartment in SKYZ. Email Address: vrmparitosh@yahoo.com

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  23. It seems, some of us would only have to take initiative and form a quick email and Whatsapp group,

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  24. Pls send me your mobile nos, I will create a Whatsapp group ASAP my no is 9899801459, just mention Ramprastha while you message me

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  25. Agree, I am part of another project also as a buyer and there is a very active group on whatsapp that keeps sharing information and concern. I am quite surprised why there is not group of dissatisfied customers. Erst of Ramprastha. Let's make it please. My mobile no. Is 9545557800.

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  26. Please also add me to email group. My email id is Dalbir.maan@gmail.com

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  27. Whatsapp group is created, mr.mann and myself are two members, rest of you pls send mobile nos, we will add, my mobile is 9899801459

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  28. Pari, Nitin, Alok, Gopesh, Gurjesh, Pankaj, Arvind, Nitin, Mukesh, Parivesh, Neeraj, calling you all, pls share your mobile nos

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  29. Please add 9818617617 on whatsapp group . I m facing problem with the possession , it's been 2 years already .

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  30. I have booked a flat in Ramprastha SKYZ and there are no committed dates yet. I recently visited the site and there was not even a single worker on site. As per the Guards it has been abandoned for the last 1 year. In case this group is also for SKYZ owners please add me to the group. +919654176176 dhirmanu72@gmail.com
    Manu Dhir

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  31. Can you please add me 9717462555 Himanshu Arora to any groups. I own an apartment in Skyz... himanshu.is@gmail.com

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  32. Please add me as well, got a flat in skyz. nitinsharma0411@gmail.com thanks !

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  33. Please add me as well, got a flat in skyz. nitinsharma0411@gmail.com thanks !

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  34. Please add me as well, got a flat in skyz. nitinsharma0411@gmail.com thanks !

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  35. please add me as well. sanjaybutola9@gmail.com
    9457169117.
    thanks

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  36. Please add me as well purohit.alok@gmail.com mobile 9560883506

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  37. Please add me to your group. I have a flat in Skyz. I made a phone call today and heard that Ramprastha is ready to pay some compensation. But we all should meet there and ask for heavy compensation
    My email is abhishekkm.singh@gmail.com

    Add me please my contact is 9910444686

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  38. We have also booked the flat in skyz. My name is Mamta Sharma and contact no is 9717887228. At present we reside in rented premises in delhi.

    It is time we get organised and lodge a complaint in district court.

    I was looking for other members to get along and initiate action at the earliest possible.

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  39. We have also booked the flat in skyz. My name is Mamta Sharma and contact no is 9717887228. At present we reside in rented premises in delhi.

    It is time we get organised and lodge a complaint in district court.

    I was looking for other members to get along and initiate action at the earliest possible.

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  40. Hello, I have recently created a group. Please text me your number I will add you in the group. +91 9818420554

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  41. Please add my number in whatsapp group
    9312622851

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  42. Pl add my number in yr WhatsApp or telegram App for Atrium EGround02.
    Mob no 09570076620

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  43. I just won 3 cases against them at the Haryana State Consumer Commission at Panchkula. 12% interest plus litigation and compensation awarded. Their Appeal/s already dismissed by National Commission Delhi. Kabir Sarin 9915200484

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